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Water Cooler: Galway v Kilkenny
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Mike, where the hell did they find that minor ref yesterday? I thought Nemo were more football than hurling and it showed yesterday -
Now now, have to be nice to the neighbours . . . though clearly John Bannon agreed with you in this morning's paper
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He rode us for most of the game and then gave one of the worst free decisions EVER at the end
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See, when you say "us" that suggests a lack of impartiality
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The non-decision that stood out for me, the two belts from behind across the Dublin wing-forward by the Tipp centre-back as he soloed in on goal, neither one penalised, then the Dublin player blown for a third catch. -
Both teams, like the seniors, have another opportunity so not much skin of the sróns. -
@dcr22B probably makes up for the big decisions ye got in the semi! -
I think our chance may have passed us by yesterday though
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That was one of the great things about yesterday - we get to see it all again, on the double! Whoever is good enough now...
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Wouldn't say that DCR though it's a common enough reaction when underdogs draw a game - 'tain't necessarily so! Dublin looked really good yesterday, a huge improvement on their s-final showing.
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The same question can be asked of Kilkenny, Mike. Would have gone down as Kilkenny's most unconvincing All-Ireland final win had they won.
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As for Dublin, I don't think so. If they can play like this once, why not again? Even after they lost momentum in the second half, they managed to get it back on course. No, all bets off again for the next day.
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Parts of the 2nd half of the senior game reminded me of the closing stages of last year's KK-Deise semi final
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Afternoon guys. Galway didn't miss their chance yesterday IMO. As Tom Helebert said, nothing can prepare a player for All-Ireland final day. Three players had been there before, 16 more now know what it's all about. I think they're in great shape. -
Galway lumping ball into unchallenged KK backs and the ball coming back at them just as quick
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@John would have been unconvincing in terms of scoreline and fact they were rattled, unsure, jittery - but hugely convincing in way they came back, not once but twice
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What about Kilkenny's delay in getting to the pitch of the game, given so many of them have been in a final so often?
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@Diarmuid OFlynn Not at all, Diarmuid. They bossed the last 10 minutes of that game and, as good as Tipp played, kept in touch. Yesterday, they had so many under-performers.
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I agree with Jackie, which isn't at all to dismiss Kilkenny. But Galway have had that big-day experience now, and even if they didn't thrive, they did survive.
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You couldn't say Galway have lost their chance. It's the second time Galway have troubled Kilkenny in the space of a couple of months. The 2/5 on offer now about the Cats is pure madness
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Can't understand why Cillian Buckley wasn't brought in for Richie Hogan (who was anonymous)
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Galway realise if you starve Kilkenny of an early lead/goal you're in with a great chance. But can they try and protect another lead against Kilkenny. It's probably fair to say no team has come quicker out of the blocks this year than Galway.
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2/5?? I'd steer well clear. What's the price on Galway Daragh?
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dcr, spot on, lumping aimless ball during that third quarter, their most dangerous player taken out of the game by Galway themselves. Both sides have much on which they can improve.
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Would people agree that Galway retreated into their shells for the second half or was it a case of Kilkenny turning up the heat?
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@dcr22B Richie Hogan hurled a lot more ball than Michael Fennelly. Was amazed Buckley wasn't on. Was presuming he was carrying a knock.
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We all gave Iarla Tannian MOM award yesterday, but he hit a mountain of ball to a non-existent ff line in the 2nd half. Were we right?
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Again dcr, on Buckley, my thoughts exactly; Buckley actually hit a lot of ball against Galway in the Leinster final, would have been a better physical match for Tannian.
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Michael Fennelly was a disappointment yesterday but he won't be as poor again, I'd imagine.
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Jackie: a bit of both, surely. Mr Moynihan: good point in De Paper earlier. Neither of them did quite enough to win yesterday.
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What should Kilkenny do differently the next day, then?
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how was Paul Murphy not nominated for man of the match?
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@jackie they certainly did. It's a hitch in their game plan though, the same happened against Cork. I would assume it's something they're working on. I wonder is Fennelly struggling a bit with injury. Recall the taping up of the hammer before the semi-final? He didn't fly that day either.
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@Enda McEvoy compliments pass when the quality meet
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Start Buckley and push Richie Hogan up front. And be more imaginative in possession.
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Michael - Kilkenny should line out their own team, for starters, best players in best positions.