Haven't a clue and don't really care, but I'll go Dublin for the craic
That's the sad thing when you look at the fixtures in Division One this year. How many of those fixtures will we get in summer between the top teams when it actually matters, yet we have had them all when it doesn't matter.
Indeed this conversation in a way sums up where the league is at. Rather than talking about the games, we are talking about how pointless an exercise it was and how to change it
Sorry for late interruption. Seems to me that Dublin took more from the League than anyone. Kildare and Cork are still lacking scoring forwards - I don't think Conor Counihan is any further down the road than he was last August. Kerry? They've brought through a few fringe players, but apart from Johnny Buckley, no-one has put himself on the starting fifteen for Championship.
That's what I don't get. People want so much for this to be important in terms of a competition but if Kerry meet Kildare, or Cork meet Kildare, will what happened in Newbridge or Croke Park be of any relevance? Will it yeah. Even Mayo against Dublin - will Cafferkey be left to cater for Brogan all on his own, with ne'er another Mayo defender within 30m? Will he yeah... (that means no).
Exactly Daragh, and look at Cork and people wondering about their form. Cork will be needing to hit a higher gear in four months and hit top gear in five months. That's longer down the road than the entire league took!
I'd agree with you on Cork, Tony. Not quite sure if they're good enough to make the step up this year.
But for the last two years Jackie people having been saying at this time of year they are the ones to beat and what did it mean? Five months too early to evaluate them.
Back in after a break in this press conference: Kerry's defence and Johnny Buckley are the biggest pluses after their campaign. As we saw yesterday, when Kerry top forwards are available they sing. Although, I'd still have Donnchadh Walsh in the starting line-up v Tipperary. Still don't think we'll see the first team Kerry until Cork as you'd imagine they'll both reach Munster final.
Have a feeling though John that Kerry will be like last year. Capable of beating anyone but don't have the depth to win it all and don't have the defensive pace to play the sort of game they did yesterday. Think we had this conversation last August!
As I said earlier, Ewan, the loss of Colm O'Neill is a massive blow to them. Not sure if they have the depth of quality up front. Defensively and in midfield, as good as anyone.
Sure weren't Munster a dead duck last week. And Rory McIlroy too? As you say Ewan, much too early. You're looking at attitudes, developments, individuals. I just think with Cork that O'Neill's loss is too big. Right now, there is no standout for me but I'd expect last year's finalists to be there or thereabouts.
If only they could get John Doyle some building work in Cork?!
We're spending so much time on Division 1, is that because we all believe the teams from the other divisions won't be in the shake up come September?
One might make the quarter-finals Terry, two if the others draw each other earlier.
Kerry are vulnerable at centre back, and that's a bad place to be vulnerable. Asking a lot of Eoin Brosnan to lift it again this year. Killian Young ain't a centre back and while most teams now go horses for courses and man mark, you will always need a defensive anchor on big pitches like Croke Park.
Big setback for Tipperary in Tullamore yesterday. Made the last 12 in 2012.
If anyone was going to break into that top eight it was Laois or Galway and they've more questions than answers at this stage.
What's so impressive about Dublin is the number of live options Jim Gavin has at his disposal. What so worrying for them is the fact that they're only one injury away from being without Bernard Brogan. I put Mayo and Cork on a similar plane. Resolute, with sporadic sparks in attack. Big and strong. Both can grind you down, but won't out-football a team. But does that even matter any more?
I'd say more worrying than a Bernard Brogan injury is an O'Carroll injury. They have no cover at three and that midfield is not elite like some of the others.
So our League power rankings after the seventh round of fixtures are: 1. Dublin 2. The Rest.
Still think Donegal are the team to beat Tony and Dublin the team most likely to beat them.
I dunno Ewan, O'Carroll injury a worry but without Double B, Dublin won't win an All-Ireland.
We are constantly seeing more and more evolution in the game and I wonder if we are reaching a stage where an expert back-room team can turn around any league form. Donegal did it last year and I can see them doing it again.
What have Donegal done to deserve not being favourites and the team to beat though. Given the competition in the top flight, the training bans and their off-season, I'd suggest Donegal were far better this league than last.
So what we've learned is that the last few months were a waste of journalist's time, newspaper's ink, player's energy and fan's money?
The obvious solution is to have Jackson Kiely take over one team in each division each year. All problems solved!
What we've learned?
1) Dublin are the team to beat
2) McGuinness had Championship blinkers on
3) Cork need Paddy Kelly (will have) and Colm O'Neill (won't have)
4) Kerry are not gone away
5) James Horan and Conor Counihan paid more homage to Donegal's defensive set up than any other Division One team.
Westmeath to win it all. Actually on second thought, Donegal.
Dear Lord Miceal! Admin, take that post down for libel!
Think people are thinking too much of Tyrone though Chris. That defence is shockingly slow, if you foot-pass the ball in attack or have runners from deep, it exposes them to the point the Cavanaghs and Peter Harte will have to sit much deeper to cover, isolating Stephen O'Neill.
Personally thinking that Tyrone's chances of beating Donegal are up there with Kildare's chances of beating Dublin.
Just can't see it happening, think Tyrone are a level below the very elite. We know McGuinness is the ultimate planner and he's had six months to plan for this one game. I almost expect a statement win and people to remember why Donegal are the best. They forgot very quickly over a handful of pointless encounters.
I think Tyrone will concede goals though Bob. Think Conor Clarke should be at three but they haven't used him there all league. Gormley, the McMahons and those corner-backs have been exposed when forwards get good ball and the ground is dry.